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Default Theme Should Respect System Accent Color

by William Westfall | 5 months ago | in General / other
Mozilla reviewing

Windows provides users with the ability to customize an accent color for window titlebars.

Firefox should support this accent color for the tab strip.

edited on Jun 2, 2021 by Asa Dotzler
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Asa Dotzler 5 months ago

I've edited your submission slightly and promoted it to the community.

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Hacksign 5 months ago

On linux, there is a system theme too.
FF 89's scroll bar didnt respect system's theme settings.

(I'm using a TraditionalOK theme which has a wide scroll bar, but FF 89 now only show me a very thin scorll bar, see attachment below)

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Brian Mallalieu 5 months ago

Why couldn't you have included the previous black tab toolbar background colour & page colour. The new themes just arn't as clear as it used to be & I wish I hadn't tried the new ones! Give us the option as well as the opportunity to change JUST the toolbar background colour, please?

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free-style 5 months ago

And also to increase the font because new characters are too small and too thin !
Is there a pilot on the Mozilla plane?
Ergonomics: is this a bad word at Mozilla?
Just about to jump to Chrome!

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Dmitrii Frolov 5 months ago

Font size hasn't changed at all

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angry&upset 5 months ago

I'm with you. I hate the new look. I can't see the stuff I need easily. Please let me be able to change the tool bar background colour and use the original dusk for the overall backgroun

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DarkBlue 5 months ago

I really need to know what the active window is, and accent color should be one of the standard themes like it used to. Your design choices are more than questionable usability-wise. Even Chrome allows that.

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Anshul Chandak 5 months ago

I have got the 89.0 (64-bit) and the look and feel is really not good. Please change it back to previous version look. Now the tabs are not good to read.Please do something.

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Anshul Chandak 5 months ago

As mentioned below by "R.Salafi", I just copy pasted. credit goes to "R.Salafi".
This is the workaround:

(1) In a new tab, type or paste about:config in the address bar and press Enter/Return. Click the button accepting the risk.

(2) In the search box in the page, type or paste browser.proton.enabled and pause while the list is filtered

(3) Double-click the preference to switch between true (new UI) and false (old UI)

It worked for me.

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Dee 5 months ago

Yes! This brings back the tab dividers!

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R L Brown 5 months ago

A quick and easy fix. Worked perfectly! Now I have the old FF 88 look and feel back and I can tell at a glance what the active tab is. The question now is why this isn't made an optional toggle in FF settings.

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Chuck Stamen 5 months ago

HUGE HELP! Thanks! I agree with others and was very surprised and disgusted with the new look. I don't understand why designer feel that less contrast and detail is better. This trend has been going on since Windows 3.1 and it has only gotten worse over time. If people want the generic, basic, no-contrast look let them buy an Apple product

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Gil Ben-Herut 5 months ago

As noted, there is no way to see that Firefox is the active window if the window title strip remains black. This is a huge usability issue that came with the last update. Should be amended ASAP. Thanks.

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Chris Ray 5 months ago

The new all light color is terrible, especially the tabs. Why make it so difficult just for the sake of change?

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Steve Noel 5 months ago

Firefox now truly SUCKS!

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Steve Noel 5 months ago

Chrome is now far better than Firefox as is Explorer!

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Adam DZ 5 months ago

There is no way to tell that FF window is active now too. Why did you have to break the GUI??? Firefox GUI was fine. Who thought this was a good idea? I want to have blue, Windows colored bar on the top of Firefox window. Please fix what you broke for no good reson.

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Adam DZ 5 months ago

Further, the light color scheme is terrible. Tabs are too light. No Windows color accent. Useless change for sake of change. Very disappointing.

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B. Aggeler 5 months ago

Firefox's "System" should also respect the system menu bar appearance. And ALL themes must visibly divide the tabs unless the user MANUALLY turns them transparent. Anything else is unacceptable

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DreamC 5 months ago

Firefox was previously supporting Windows accent color. And with Photon, Firefox decided not only not to support it, but to also move further away from "generic" controls:
1) Window controls (minimize, maximize, close) are now not the same size as the rest of the system
2) Context menu should also respect the system design (though it's a bit harder here, as there a few variants for this...)
3) Accent colors in Windows should also be used.

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Boris Burdenko 5 months ago

The low-contrast black strip that is not being themed to an accent color while active makes me double check the active window just to be sure I'm typing in firefox and not somewhere else.

The theming settings (to color the title bar or not) are already present OS wide, why does one application decide to not conform with them?

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Dallas Filby 5 months ago

I've been happy with every FF update until this one. I wish they at least provided an option to allow users to keep the old look

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R.Salafi 5 months ago

This should be fixed asap, where I choose the term fixed intentionally, implying it is indeed broken.

And this is the bare minimum of the proposed fix
After the update the user should minimally get the choice which interface is preferred. Without that option the update is lacking a critical requirement i.m.n.s.h.o. and thus is incomplete or even broken.

For me the only way to proceed working with FF without the continuous sensation of eyes that wanna puke, was downgrading to version 88.

So here is how I did it:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1...#question-reply


This big of a change in user interface should really be a choice and not to be forced upon.

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R.Salafi 5 months ago

I found another possible option which might work for some users, haven't tried it myself though:

(1) In a new tab, type or paste about:config in the address bar and press Enter/Return. Click the button accepting the risk.

(2) In the search box in the page, type or paste browser.proton.enabled and pause while the list is filtered

(3) Double-click the preference to switch between true (new UI) and false (old UI)

There was a warning attached that this is an experimental feature which might glitch though.

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Adam DZ 5 months ago

YES! This works! My tab bar is blue now and tabs are visibly divided. Looks like the old theme. Thank you!

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2sheds 5 months ago

Excellent, thanks for the tip!

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kerrt fuvk 5 months ago

Thanks so much. The new UI hurt my brain and eyes. It was this or change browser. Does (force) changing the UI help bring in more users or alienate your users.

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Dallas Filby 5 months ago

This worked for me too, thanks!

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Anshul Chandak 5 months ago

This works, but seems still some coloring missing.

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Gauthzilla 5 months ago

Thanks R.Salafi, this works great. Not only the accentuation color is back, but even the legacy tab layout is back! :-)
Furthermore this even saves a couple pixel in height, triple usability benefit!!!

It is sad to see that Firefox had succumbed to some fancy designer words in spite of tangible usability aspects. :-(

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Carighan Maconar 5 months ago

It shouldn't be that difficult to essentially just use this straight out of the box. Firefox 89+ already uses an accent color for a fair few items, it just happens to be a hardcoded cyan-like color. Just read the accent color from the system and use it instead and that's a good step in the right direction.

Of course, sure, long-term it ought to affect the title bar again.

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random trifle 5 months ago

I miss the accent color in the title bar that was available for standard theme up to Firefox 88. Now, standard theme is basically light theme :(
Hope accent color in the title bar gets added back to standard theme

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Peter Sauer 5 months ago

The tab colours are way too light, very difficult to see

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Paul Smith 5 months ago

Agree 100% with this - it's just "Light" theme enforced and it's horrible. I've turned off Proton in about:config but I understand this will just be a stopgap. All I want is for the default theme (or another theme called "Old Geezer Theme" if you want) to look like it does now with Proton off - no stupid pale grey tabs on a pale grey background with pale grey dividing lines - who the hell thinks that's a good look? Now I have black tabs with a grey divider and the active tab in grey so it stands out. Absolutely perfect.

I'm guessing you don't need pictures to know what I'm talking about. If you really do then just email me and I'll take screen shots.

(Using W10 64-bit - been using FF since 0.1 beta; I even forgave you 57). I created an account just to make this point, that's how strongly I feel

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William Stratford 5 months ago

Agree with suggestion to have a different color in the title bar on Windows. Without this it is unclear which window is active. This creates considerable frustration when typing and not seeing it appear in the window that I think is active.

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R Igo 5 months ago

I already commented on the issue with light default color scheme in "Questions". Since this morning I have another "color" issue. Some sites change their background color to sky blue! I see it on CNBC.COM and on Atlantic.Com. The issue is not present in Chrome. Attached are two captures - one from FF and another of the same page from Chrome. Looks to me that this new FF interface is very buggy.

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Tricia L 5 months ago

I'd like a way to remove the Dark theme on my downloaded themes like Dark Fox for the drop-down menus.

I have poor eyesight and can't handle the white on black of the dark theme on the drop-down menu and every theme I go for that isn't almost white is like that and the white ones are way too bright.

I had to put proton as false to do it and I'm fearing the next update that'll remove that option and have me stuck with either doing the too bright light, the horrible for my eyesight dark, or worse the default theme.

Give us at least a choice of choosing dark or light for certain aspects of Firefox (and no Firefox color is NOT helpful cause I can't find the option to use black on white just for the drop-down menus)

Don't these guys have poor sighted people on their staff? How are they not seeing this?

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Oscar Henao 5 months ago

Agree with the comments about this release, new look is really dissapointing!!! I am just about to migrate to Chrome!!!

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Mikola Petrivskiy 5 months ago

It almost looks like Google or Microsoft has given a bribe to some mozilians to destroy Firefox from inside.

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DarkBlue 5 months ago

I don't even care about the new look really. I want to see what window is active, period. So far I disabled Proton. Is that a new fad to ignore your users in software dev?

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B B 5 months ago

Awful, looks like the Firefox window is always inactive! What's the point!

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Edward Reid 5 months ago

I never considered changing the FF theme before, but the latest default is a victory for fashion and agism. Low contrast, small widgets, lack of borders => low usability. This is bad for everyone, but especially for those of us who have passed a Certain Age.

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Dmitry G 5 months ago

This is some mind-numbing decision making by Firefox team.
Please bring back title bar accent colors.
Meanwhile, I had to disable proton.

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SedaRay 5 months ago

forward and back arrows, checkboxes, circles that require a dot - all my entries are invisible. The colors are missing. https://www.creators.com/read/rubes/06/21/302899 , tvguide, nearly all sites. Maybe it's the theme but I can't find one that works. Mac High Sierra. Even

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Mark Appier 5 months ago

Although not critical, having the accent color on the tab strip would be a nice touch!

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Tudor Florea 4 months ago

Please bring back the separators between the tabs or
p l e a s e b r i n g b a c k t h e s e p a r a t o r b e t w e e n t h e t a b s .

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Reseda Mickey 4 months ago

I quit using Firefox Nightly because this was a problem and now Developer has started making all selections the same color - checkboxes, any choices I make on a page don't show. Here's a tvguide example. I couldn't even sign into this feedback site because only Google showed up as a choice, the other icons were white/invisible - I could blindly click, found linkedin that was white. Please let me go back to earlier version. I'm going back to Chrome until this gets sorted.

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Mike Piehl 4 months ago

It's the System Theme that should respect System Accent color. Firefox has been ok since it's beginning until version 89.0 and now 90.00. The System Theme is not the Windows System Theme. and shall we say is F.U.B.R., and is not fit for use. Tabs and the Title Bar have no contrast, are illegible, and are indistinguishable. What a pathetic UI !!! And unbelievable arrogance on the part of the design team !!!

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PatrykB 2 months ago

I absolutely agree and unfortunately due to the lack of contrast on the tabs and title bar I started using Microsoft Edge. I wonder what people who have poor eyesight should do? Mozilla supports minorities, maybe that's why it should be a priority.

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Mike Piehl 4 months ago

Themes for Firefox?1? What a Joke! Message for the Design Team: Go play around with Winamp!

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Reseda Mickey 4 months ago

I can't even sign into feedback with my old address because there are no icons - this is true of any theme color - only the Google icon shows. I can roll over and find facebook and linkdein but not the email I use for firefox account

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Reseda Mickey 4 months ago

Here it is on Edge

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Mike Piehl 4 months ago

It is really disappointing that the Firefox design team choose to F.U. the U.I. so badly. Compared to every other browser and pre-version 89.0 Firefox, Firefox for me has now become unusable. Here's what I suggest:
Turn off automatic update - "3 Bar" Menu/Options/General at the bottom of the page, Uninstall Firefox, then download and install version 88.0
Version 88.0 will have an update nag that periodically shows up in the upper-right corner, don't be tricked into updating.
It's a good idea to set a Restore Point because you may mess up. If you somehow do a Firefox Reset you will loose your configuration without warning.
Both Chrome and Microsoft Edge are designed using good User Interface (UI) principles so it's a good idea to start transitioning to one or both of them.

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Asa Dotzler 3 months ago

Status label added: Open to the community

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Dhwanit Gohel 3 months ago

Type: about:config

Search for "proton"

set "browser.proton.enabled" to "false"

The top theme will change without breaking other stuff.

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Hurpa 3 months ago

Except none of the checkboxes in the settings will have check marks.

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Yuanchen Zhu 2 months ago

Version 92.0 on Windows removed the accent color from tab bar background again for the default theme. Now the tabs and the tab bar background are just light grey and it's really hard to
- find the active tab (there's only a slightly darker grey outline around it)
- differentiate between an active firefox window and an inactive window

Folks, just WHY?

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Semilynx 2 months ago

Same for me. I would prefer to have the title/menu bar in system accent colour and I urgently request to use a noticeable different colour for the active tab. In case of bad lighting conditions it is nearly impossible to identify which tab is the active one and I am losing time by clicking around. Please ... !!!

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Jon Siddoway 1 month ago

Status label added: Mozilla considering

Status label removed: Open to the community

Hey all, 

Here with some exciting news…

Your idea has emerged as a top idea in this category and will now be reviewed by the product team at Mozilla. As soon as we have another update on its status, we’ll let you know right here in the comment section.

Stay tuned =)

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JFDee 1 month ago

Went back to FF 88 and refused to update (annother pain in the neck because the nagging can't be disabled).

On large screens it's essential to mark the active window clearly. It's incomprehensible that Microsoft chose to have this disabled by default but at least it can be configured.

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Semilynx 6 days ago

Pssst, don't tell them ...:
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Mozilla\Firefox
add "DisableAppUpdate" (DWORD) = 1

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JFDee 6 days ago

I won't !! Thanx !!

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